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Post by coverpoint on Apr 10, 2022 17:01:24 GMT
I thought Sussex played really well on the first day and most of the second day, but it ended up being a case of "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra famously said. I am heartily fed up with reading in Sussex match reports on the website references to "the young Sussex side" and their plucky efforts against stronger teams. Of course they're stronger teams because they include experienced players. We have "a young Sussex side" as a result of choices made by the county's management/coaching staff - no one held a gun to their heads and said "You can only field players in their teens and early twenties". Of course, I realise that our overseas players weren't here in time for the first game, and I realise that Robinson, Garton and F H-P would have ordinarily been in the line-up, but we are where we are because of an ill-conceived focus on youth at the expense of experience. Attempts to paint this as some kind of David v Goliath story don't cut it for me. I agree wholeheartedly. |
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Post by skylark on Apr 10, 2022 17:14:26 GMT
I thought Sussex played really well on the first day and most of the second day, but it ended up being a case of "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra famously said. I am heartily fed up with reading in Sussex match reports on the website references to "the young Sussex side" and their plucky efforts against stronger teams. Of course they're stronger teams because they include experienced players. We have "a young Sussex side" as a result of choices made by the county's management/coaching staff - no one held a gun to their heads and said "You can only field players in their teens and early twenties". Of course, I realise that our overseas players weren't here in time for the first game, and I realise that Robinson, Garton and F H-P would have ordinarily been in the line-up, but we are where we are because of an ill-conceived focus on youth at the expense of experience. Attempts to paint this as some kind of David v Goliath story don't cut it for me. I agree wholeheartedly. it was Sussex choice no one else’s to blood all these youngsters at the same time to many to soon in my opinion should have introduced them slowly and got more experience in and around them |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 10, 2022 17:34:59 GMT
thereallab1,
Battling for 4 days against a top side shows mental strength.
Losing by 10 wickets does not show mental strength. Playing well
for a day and a half out of four is not being competitive.
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Post by sponge on Apr 10, 2022 18:51:13 GMT
A frustrating start for Sussex.
Day 1 a good batting effort.
Day 2 session 1, rounded off our batting effort.
Day 2 session2 and 3, good bowling and fielding effort. Hope was high.
Day3 poor bowling effort. This is where we lost the game. Shame about losing Haines before end of day.
Day 4 we needed to bat lots of balls. Apart from Orr we didn't. Notts seam attack was average; but they did have a proper spinner in Patterson-White (MoM).
Lots to applaud from Sussex; but also lots where we can get better.
Looking forward to the next game v Derbyshire with Rizwan and Pujara.
What I don't like is the unnecessary and unhelpful finger pointing at the Sussex players. Let's get behind the team and buy into the longer term journey.
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Post by joe on Apr 10, 2022 18:54:54 GMT
I thought Sussex played really well on the first day and most of the second day, but it ended up being a case of "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra famously said. I am heartily fed up with reading in Sussex match reports on the website references to "the young Sussex side" and their plucky efforts against stronger teams. Of course they're stronger teams because they include experienced players. We have "a young Sussex side" as a result of choices made by the county's management/coaching staff - no one held a gun to their heads and said "You can only field players in their teens and early twenties". Of course, I realise that our overseas players weren't here in time for the first game, and I realise that Robinson, Garton and F H-P would have ordinarily been in the line-up, but we are where we are because of an ill-conceived focus on youth at the expense of experience. Attempts to paint this as some kind of David v Goliath story don't cut it for me. Absolutely spot on! We are supposed to be a professional county cricket team, the age of the players is irrelevant and can not be used as an excuse to lose. |
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 10, 2022 19:29:55 GMT
Describing a team with an average age of 21 5 as pathetic really isn't helpful. We have a long list of injuries and players unavailable and not having Ibrahims bowling and batting really hindered us The average age maybe 21 but they really need to toughen up quickly. Playing for Sussex is a privilege not a god given right. How desperate are they to succeed for Sussex? I don't see any improvement in some of the youngsters. Unless they want to be flipping burgers in McDonalds on £9.50 per hour the youngsters need to practice much harder and for longer and spend less time on Facebook and Instagram and socialising. Cricket is a career which can be cut short unless you are prepared to put the hard yards in. It's a full time job! James and Patterson-White are only 23 and Evison 20 and they are streets ahead of our youngsters. If any of three became available on loan I would immediately sign them. Spot on |
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 10, 2022 19:31:49 GMT
Quite. For a forum of so-called supporters this place is a bad joke. Exactly for most posters on here it's about being right rather than supporting the team. I've been called all sorts on here purely for seeing the good in the process rather than jump on bandwagons such as Matt Priors one man crusade. It must be a proud moment for all Sussex fans seeing 3 homegrown players past 50 and to fight the way they did today after being stuck in Unfortunately they are right and you and grubby are wrong. Play teenagers and they will lose matches and get injured. It’s embarrassing. Please stop |
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Post by therealab1 on Apr 10, 2022 19:42:29 GMT
thereallab1, Battling for 4 days against a top side shows mental strength.Losing by 10 wickets does not show mental strength. Playing well for a day and a half out of four is not being competitive. Utterly nonsense. You are accusing kids if being mentally weak and then saying none of them are good enough. It is such a shame people only post when we lose rather than through put the game because all you want to be is right and you don't care about Sussex winning, it's painful for me to read yet alone a Tom Clark to read when he's fought so hard |
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Post by therealab1 on Apr 10, 2022 19:43:24 GMT
Exactly for most posters on here it's about being right rather than supporting the team. I've been called all sorts on here purely for seeing the good in the process rather than jump on bandwagons such as Matt Priors one man crusade. It must be a proud moment for all Sussex fans seeing 3 homegrown players past 50 and to fight the way they did today after being stuck in Unfortunately they are right and you and grubby are wrong. Play teenagers and they will lose matches and get injured. It’s embarrassing. Please stop ***ing me and grubby I don't know the geezer. Matt Prior admitted he was wrong so are you going to do the same or go against the grain. |
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Post by surreysteve on Apr 10, 2022 20:22:44 GMT
Haines shouldn’t be captain. I would have given it
to Finn an experienced county pro. They picked
Lenham as a spinner and he hardly bowled!!!
Rawlins just fires it in with no turn. I know AL
is raw and would go for runs but he will pick up
wickets.
Grant Flower will sort out the batting in time.
Pujara and Rizwan will make a massive difference.
Is Rizwan here yet??
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Apr 10, 2022 21:05:08 GMT
Pathetic. The sooner Pujara, Rizwan, Garton, Hudson-Prentice, Robinson and Carson replace Alsop, Atkins, Crocombe, Ibrahim, Lenham and Rawlins the better. Describing a team with an average age of 21 5 as pathetic really isn't helpful. We have a long list of injuries and players unavailable and not having Ibrahims bowling and batting really hindered us And why have we got an average age of 21? Thanks to the mass exodus of senior players over the last 2 years which you seem to be in favour of. Yes we’ll hopefully be better once the overseas players come in, plus Garton, Carson and hopefully Robinson, should make a difference. But once again, this is indicative of the mess Andrew and co. are putting us in. |
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 10, 2022 21:09:06 GMT
Unfortunately they are right and you and grubby are wrong. Play teenagers and they will lose matches and get injured. It’s embarrassing. Please stop ***ing me and grubby I don't know the geezer. Matt Prior admitted he was wrong so are you going to do the same or go against the grain. Do you honestly think what the club has done over the last four to five years has been successful? Please answer the below questions; 1. Is the squad improving year on year? 2. Are we finishing in a better or worse league position each year? 3. Have we got more or less members than we used to? 4. Are the crowds getting bigger or smaller? 5. As a club are we getting more or less attractive for players to join? 6. Are we getting better or worse at retaining our talent? I couldnt care about being proved right or wrong I just want Sussex to be successful and win a few games of cricket. I was there today and we were just dreadful |
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 10, 2022 21:11:53 GMT
Describing a team with an average age of 21 5 as pathetic really isn't helpful. We have a long list of injuries and players unavailable and not having Ibrahims bowling and batting really hindered us And why have we got an average age of 21? Thanks to the mass exodus of senior players over the last 2 years which you seem to be in favour of. Yes we’ll hopefully be better once the overseas players come in, plus Garton, Carson and hopefully Robinson, should make a difference. But once again, this is indicative of the mess Andrew and co. are putting us in. Brilliant message. It’s amazing that someone can say don’t moan about losing we have a young side! It’s the clubs fault we have such a young side. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. We don’t want to see teenagers play for Sussex we want to see Sussex compete. Frankly I don’t care how Old they are |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Apr 10, 2022 21:17:22 GMT
I thought Sussex played really well on the first day and most of the second day, but it ended up being a case of "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra famously said. I am heartily fed up with reading in Sussex match reports on the website references to "the young Sussex side" and their plucky efforts against stronger teams. Of course they're stronger teams because they include experienced players. We have "a young Sussex side" as a result of choices made by the county's management/coaching staff - no one held a gun to their heads and said "You can only field players in their teens and early twenties". Of course, I realise that our overseas players weren't here in time for the first game, and I realise that Robinson, Garton and F H-P would have ordinarily been in the line-up, but we are where we are because of an ill-conceived focus on youth at the expense of experience. Attempts to paint this as some kind of David v Goliath story don't cut it for me. Precisely 👏👏👏. Still no explanation as to why we’ve got rid of everyone and are trying to kid/con the members with 5 year plans. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Apr 10, 2022 21:21:43 GMT
thereallab1, Battling for 4 days against a top side shows mental strength.Losing by 10 wickets does not show mental strength. Playing well for a day and a half out of four is not being competitive. Utterly nonsense. You are accusing kids if being mentally weak and then saying none of them are good enough. It is such a shame people only post when we lose rather than through put the game because all you want to be is right and you don't care about Sussex winning, it's painful for me to read yet alone a Tom Clark to read when he's fought so hard He should be annoyed with the management and to an extent with his team-mates, not with the members/supporters who are thoroughly hacked off with how the club is being run. Either you’re in some sort of different universe or just on the wind-up. |
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