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Post by jonboy on Jun 18, 2015 17:11:42 GMT
OK that's that one out of the way, another defeat and only four points. In the end, 300+ batting last! against that attack! was a decent performance! but it's still another defeat and things are unlikely to get better. We will not be able to put together an attack that will win us matches, especially if, as rumoured, Shahzad will not play again this season. Add to that, the flakiest batting in the division, meaning we will probably need more wins than is usually required, as we won't accrue enough batting bonus points. Relegation looms I'm afraid, unless somehow, we can find a way to draft in quality replacements. That's very worrying. Can anyone enlighten us further on Shahzad's prognosis for the rest of the season, please? Not confirmed, but his tweets seem to suggest that may be the case
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Post by flashblade on Jun 18, 2015 17:16:49 GMT
That's very worrying. Can anyone enlighten us further on Shahzad's prognosis for the rest of the season, please? Not confirmed, but his tweets seem to suggest that may be the case Thanks, jonboy. Let's hope he's being unduly pessimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 17:25:52 GMT
Relegation looms I'm afraid, unless somehow, we can find a way to draft in quality replacements....unless Robinson and Joyce can life the currrent squad of players out of whatever collective malaise they are suffering under. Since the start of the season we've already drafted in three new players - a trialist, who has hit the ground running, and two loanees (one who has done OK and one who has so far been a liability). We've also signed Jayawardene and Bailey for the T20. Sussex cannot continually keep on bringing in new faces (although one wouldn't be surprised if another Cachopa brother is added to the squad). The coaches and captain really have to find a way of getting the existing players to do the job they are salaried to do with greater application and better intent than at present. If they don't, then I agree - five defeats in the last six games is relegation form. I'd still like to see Chris Adams come in on a consultancy basis to see if he can motivate a group of failing players whose body language at times in this match resembled a bunch of condemned men on death row.
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Post by jonboy on Jun 18, 2015 17:38:32 GMT
Relegation looms I'm afraid, unless somehow, we can find a way to draft in quality replacements....unless Robinson and Joyce can life the currrent squad of players out of whatever collective malaise they are suffering under. Since the start of the season we've already drafted in three new players - a trialist, who has hit the ground running, and two loanees (one who has done OK and one who has so far been a liability). We've also signed Jayawardene and Bailey for the T20. Sussex cannot continually keep on bringing in new faces (although one wouldn't be surprised if another Cachopa brother is added to the squad). The coaches and captain really have to find a way of getting the existing players to do the job they are salaried to do with greater application and better intent than at present. If they don't, then I agree - five defeats in the last six games is relegation form. I'd still like to see Chris Adams come in on a consultancy basis to see if he can motivate a group of failing players whose body language at times in this match resembled a bunch of condemned men on death row. I think we're kidding ourselves if we think these players can be motivated to turn around our fortunes. There has always been a lack of collective resolve about our batting, but in the past we've always had an attack that could win us enough games. Realistically, we were never going to be title challengers when we struggle to post decent scores, and now, with what's left of our bowling resources, winning enough games to stay up is likely to beyond us. Without Mills, Shahzad, Anyon, Hatchett and Jordan, we will struggle to field a threatening attack at this level.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 18, 2015 18:42:08 GMT
Relegation looms I'm afraid, unless somehow, we can find a way to draft in quality replacements. 28 players and yet still you suggest we need more players! It is not new players we need but a new coach who is able to get the best of the players. For the last six years we have done nothing under Joyce and Robinson. Granted the later did well in the first four years but then he inherited a good side from Moores.
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Post by jonboy on Jun 18, 2015 18:46:13 GMT
Not confirmed, but his tweets seem to suggest that may be the case Thanks, jonboy. Let's hope he's being unduly pessimistic. And the bad news keeps a coming, apparently Linley, who kinda did OK against Durham, has been recalled by Surrey
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Post by jonboy on Jun 18, 2015 18:49:45 GMT
Relegation looms I'm afraid, unless somehow, we can find a way to draft in quality replacements. 28 players and yet still you suggest we need more players! It is not new players we need but a new coach who is able to get the best of the players. For the last six years we have done nothing under Joyce and Robinson. Granted the later did well in the first four years but then he inherited a good side from Moores. So are you suggesting a new coach would be able to motivate a likely attack of, Magoffin, Hobden, Liddle and Dockrell, to bowl Warwickshire out twice? We simply don't have the personnel, in my opinion
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 18, 2015 18:49:46 GMT
Thanks, jonboy. Let's hope he's being unduly pessimistic. And the bad news keeps a coming, apparently Linley, who kinda did OK against Durham, has been recalled by Surrey To be expected. I was surprised they loaned him out in the first place with with their injuries.
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Post by leedsgull on Jun 18, 2015 18:52:29 GMT
These loans are a farce. It seems you only keep a player if he does badly like Dockrell. Put in a good performance such as Linley and the parent club immediately recall you. Surely loans should be for a specified time?
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 18, 2015 18:58:39 GMT
28 players and yet still you suggest we need more players! It is not new players we need but a new coach who is able to get the best of the players. For the last six years we have done nothing under Joyce and Robinson. Granted the later did well in the first four years but then he inherited a good side from Moores. So are you suggesting a new coach would be able to motivate a likely attack of, Magoffin, Hobden, Liddle and Dockrell, to bowl Warwickshire out twice? We simply don't have the personnel, in my opinion I wouldn't play Dockerell or Liddle for a start! Even with the retirements and injuries he still has 18 players to choose from! The biggest indictment of Robinson's spell as Sussex coach is that none of the Sussex players have improved under Robinson.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:15:31 GMT
These loans are a farce. It seems you only keep a player if he does badly like Dockrell. Put in a good performance such as Linley and the parent club immediately recall you. Surely loans should be for a specified time? If you look back at the posts on here on Sunday, I predicted that following the injury to Henriques, if Linley bowled well, then Surrey would recall him. Loan players are not the answer. We have plenty of good cricketers in the squad even despite the injuries. It's just that hardly any of them are playing anywhere near their potential and they look like rabbits startled in the headlights. I'm not criticising Robinson; just suggesting he needs some assistance in turning around what is now the biggest crisis in his managerial career. Adams is willing and available and to refuse his help is pig-headed. Sussex are in a relegation dog-fight and the club has to put the alpha-male posturuing and the silly internal politics aside and all pull in the same direction. And that means Robinson and Adams working together for the club they both profess to love.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 18, 2015 19:27:26 GMT
These loans are a farce. It seems you only keep a player if he does badly like Dockrell. Put in a good performance such as Linley and the parent club immediately recall you. Surely loans should be for a specified time? Loan players are not the answer. We have plenty of good cricketers in the squad even despite the injuries. It's just that hardly any of them are playing anywhere near their potential and they look like rabbits startled in the headlights. I'm not criticising Robinson; just suggesting he needs some assistance in turning around what is now the biggest crisis in his managerial career. Adams is willing and available and to refuse his help is pig-headed. Sussex are in a relegation dog-fight and the club has to put the alpha-male posturuing and the silly internal politics aside and all pull in the same direction. And that means Robinson and Adams working together for the club they both profess to love. I agree. Whatever personal differences they may have the club must come first over any individual's ego.
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Post by timbo1988 on Jun 18, 2015 20:55:45 GMT
I also think Joyce's captaincy needs to come under scrutiny as I presume he had a big say in Dockrell signing! Tactically I think he struggles and we are a lot weaker than we were under Yardy! How Robbo refuses to select beer in the championship when he is the standout t20 bowler is a joke! Beer could bat at 8 and offer a big threat spinning the ball both ways! He needs 4 day games to develop!
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 18, 2015 21:00:43 GMT
I also think Joyce's captaincy needs to come under scrutiny as I presume he had a big say in Dockrell signing! Tactically I think he struggles and we are a lot weaker than we were under Yardy! How Robbo refuses to select beer in the championship when he is the standout t20 bowler is a joke! Beer could bat at 8 and offer a big threat spinning the ball both ways! He needs 4 day games to develop! Couldn't agree more both Joyce and Robinson's position should be coming under scrutiny. Why is Beer not playing?
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Post by jonboy on Jun 18, 2015 21:19:35 GMT
I don't really understand why we brought Dockrell in, as he isn't really a significant upgrade on what we have. I agree that we could have played Will instead of Dockrell, though I don't believe he'd have added much to the bowling. At this stage, neither Will Beer or George Dockrell are the answer.
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