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Phil Salt
Oct 12, 2017 20:23:52 GMT
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 12, 2017 20:23:52 GMT
But who’s to say Salt wouldn’t have had a good season if he’d been given the chances that Evans had? I agree with smithers, we’ve invested time and money getting these academy boys ready for first class cricket but give them very few opportunities. Yes he’s had an indifferent season playing for the 2’s this year but this is his second season and you can understand his desire to play on the big stage instead of some backwater in front of one man and his cat. Invariably players step up when required. He must be good enough if he was given a contract in the first place. I’d rather see Salt given games and failing a few times than I would Evans. Salt is bound to feel tempted by another club if they’re offering him game time. If he does go I think it’s a poor show by Sussex and one that will inevitably come back to bite us! I always want to see young academy players playing but they have to earn the right. They shouldn't start in the first team just because they are young and born in Sussex! Hear hear. |
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Post by smithers2 on Oct 12, 2017 21:20:33 GMT
Lovelyboy just for the record and in response to your recent post Evans did in fact play in the final two CC games of the season against both Durham and Nottinghamshire and posted scores of 19, 4, 1 and 13 respectively. Coincidentally Salt was brought in from the cold and also played in these games and in the second innings at Durham posted 72 runs which was the teams highest score in this innings which arguably put us in a match winning position for day 4 (which indeed came to fruition).
In any case my original point and reason for posting on this thread was that I wanted to make the assertion that in my opinion Phil Salt along with other academy product youngsters were unfairly left out during the 2017 season purely because Mark Davis was trying to prove the point that his expensive signings of Laurie Evans and also David Wiese were born of wise rationale and well-grounded cricket knowledge. As you will no doubt heard by now from elsewhere it is bad decisions like these which may well have cost him his job to which I say "good riddance"!
Let us see now next season how the likes of Laurie Evans and David Wiese fair when team selection is formulated from a level playing field and the younger players are given an equal chance!
Also let us hope that the demise of Davis now means that Salt will stay at Sussex!
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Phil Salt
Oct 12, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
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Post by jonboy on Oct 12, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
I'm presuming the clamour for Salt to play, is about championship cricket? Finch, incidentally another academy product, did struggle as a makeshift opener For me, we persisted with him at the top of the order for too long For what it's worth, I think Wells and Nash should be the opening pair
When a change was finally made, Robson rightly got the nod, as his stats for the seconds were significantly better than Salt's As I said, the competition which I expected Salt to get more opportunities, was the T20 However, just playing 4 batsmen, always made that avenue tricky
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 13, 2017 3:59:50 GMT
What competition are you talking about? The county champs where Evans only played 4 games? Or the 50 over comp where Evans was our best player? Or the T20 comp where Evans again had a good season? Or are you talking nonsense? Yes quite, Evans didn't play a championship match after May, and did indeed have more than decent campaigns in the whiteball competitions. But of course, he came in from outside, so let's pick on him. Actually he did play against Durham and Notts scoring 19, 4, 1 and 13 which is 37 runs @ 9.25. |
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Post by smithers2 on Oct 26, 2017 17:16:18 GMT
At last some good news coming out of Sussex CCC. Well done Phil Salt!
I am reliably informed that he had not one but two alternative written offers from other Counties to consider both of which he has now turned down.
I do hope that this loyalty will bring it's rewards for both himself and Sussex CCC! :-)
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Post by jonboy on Oct 26, 2017 17:46:52 GMT
Yes, this is good news, a two year deal as well
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Post by magik on Oct 26, 2017 18:07:28 GMT
Great news. Sussex drastically improved the contract offered to Salt when he made them aware he had a much more attractive offer on the table.
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Post by joe on Oct 26, 2017 18:07:59 GMT
Excellent news
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Post by jonboy on Oct 26, 2017 20:16:45 GMT
Great news. Sussex drastically improved the contract offered to Salt when he made them aware he had a much more attractive offer on the table. and when they realised Nash was leaving |
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Post by chrisc on Oct 27, 2017 11:37:58 GMT
Yes great news, particularly given the speculation that he was likely to leave. Actually, in response to smithers2, I don't see this as the only piece of recent good news given the changes that are undoubtedly happening.
I witnessed that innings at Durham and it really was vital to us winning that game. I was very impressed, not just by his talent, which we knew about, but also by the maturity of the innings playing the match situation. From what I’ve seen before, I felt that he needed to overcome the “Machans” (sorry Matt) of playing unnecessarily attacking shots at the wrong time. But he showed in this innings that he can do it.
Was everyone else aware of the Barbados connection as that was news to me?
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Post by smithers2 on Oct 27, 2017 17:27:37 GMT
I was aware of the Barbados connection. Apparently the story goes that he was spotted in Barbados at the age of 12 by Philo Wallace the ex West Indies opener who at the time was playing cricket for the MCC with Keith Meddlycott (ex Surrey Coach and player) who upon hearing of Salt flew to Barbados and offered him a lucrative scholarship at Reeds school, Surrey where Meddlycott was now the Cricket Coach.
He was on Surrey CCC's Radar and played for them in some early age-group matches but was never offered a contract until....... in 2014 Sussex CCC offered him an Academy Contract at which point Surrey immediately countered with their own offer which Salt dutifully declined.
Hopefully the rest (as they say) will become history (fingers crossed).
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 27, 2017 20:42:08 GMT
At last some good news coming out of Sussex CCC. Well done Phil Salt! I am reliably informed that he had not one but two alternative written offers from other Counties to consider both of which he has now turned down. I do hope that this loyalty will bring it's rewards for both himself and Sussex CCC! :-) It's been nothing but good news this close season as far as I'm concerned, and this is more of it. We've got rid of a couple of past it old men on big salaries and a coach who wasn't up to it, to put it politely.
Chuck in cutting loose the two Kolpaks, Evans and Briggs and replace them with Ducket, Burns/Renshaw (Australia) and several more Academy grads and it's Christmas in Camp Fraudster - or whatever my name is now.
That would then leave us with the finances to employ a proper coaching set-up and two Mac Daddy overseas T20 swashbucklers later for the big dig bosh.
Ashington says we'll get nowhere fast with our youth, well we ain't got anywhere fast or slowly with our s**t bucket of a plan in the last five years. And that don't mean all kids and no experience. It's a blend which we keep failing to hit thanks to signing Kolpaks and Journeymen.
You all think these changes we're making are huge - the changes aren't even half done if we really wanna move forward. Wake up people.
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Post by philh on Nov 22, 2018 15:45:01 GMT
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Post by liquidskin on Nov 30, 2018 22:02:48 GMT
They'll know won't they? Otherwise how will they know when to offer him a new one? Seriously, what is it with the secrecy over contracts lately? Some family club. I always make it common knowledge how long the contracts are that I hand out to my family. I fact I often post it online. Kid 1 : 8 years Kid 2 : 10 years Wife : 6 months girlfriend - 1 week Dog - 20 years |
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Post by kevininnessupersub on May 4, 2019 9:22:39 GMT
Great news for Phil that he has been callled into the England 20/20 for their game against Pakistan tomorrow in Cardiff.
Not for Sussex though.
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